Asbestos - WARNING

[backhouse1]

Yeah I've done plenty of work in Power Stations, Hospitals, Schools etc. Power Stations are chock full of it unfortunately. Like you I can borrow equipment on the odd occasion so I'm lucky in that respect. Just for the others, SAFETY INDUSTRIES is another good supplier of RPE / PPE (Respiratory / Personal Protective Equipment). Just Google the name.

Cheers

Backhouse

[Andy_l]

A paper mask won't help against asbestos IIRC and you get silicosis (hardening of lung tissue) from the fibres, not cancer.
Michael

Mesothelioma (probably spelt wrong) if I remember my H+S lectures at college!

Having just changed the brake shoes on the Gaz (due to fluid contamination) this did occur to me.
Of course the shoes soaked in oil a re pretty safe to handle so long as you don't cut them, it's the good ones you should worry about!

Unless you changed the shoes yourself last time, you cannot know how old they are as these trucks do very low mileage.

[LOGGERS]

Knowing these vehicles come from foreign areas and have been used in "Military Zones" has anyone looked into the insulation/inside materials in the "Cabin Bodies"? Could be as dangerous as Asbestos. Fibreglass can also cause lung disease and used EP90 is best avoided.

I use Aspen 2Takk in chainsaws to avoid the "benzine" content as working with the equipment all the time I need to breath some fresh oxygen. :roll:

[zoltan]

What is the opinion on what to do with the asbestos in my Gaz66? Specifically the heater duct behind the cab

Leave it alone and continue to leave it alone or get it removed?

The heater ducting shows some very small dry edges on some of the fibres which are obviously dry and flaky. I'm not happy to have this hanging around and thought to repaint it and drown it in paint to contain it that way or bite the bullet and get specialists to remove it

What have others done?

[haymish]

me personally would soak it and remove myself[but wearing silly coveralls face mask etc].if you keep it wet the risk diminishes hugely-then double bag it and hand it in at local tip place cos they should have a container for it.

[zoltan]

Yes, it's really got to go. Have been out doing the rounds of my new toy and pondering on how to get it and its beautifully wound wire corset off together without too much dust. Thinking long nose snips each side. I'll take the whole ducting off first

[Ditch]

Asbestos risk is about a number of factors like access, condition, type etc. Personally I think you would be at more risk removing it than repainting but I don't know that for a fact.

Backhouse 1 does this for a living so. I'll contact him and ask him to answer on the forum. I haven't touched mine yet except for blocking off the vents in the box. I was intending to give it a good dose of primer and then paint. I won't be rubbing it down and blowing it clean with an airline though.

[backhouse1]

Hi Chaps

Sorry I haven't been around much lately, new job, really busy, blah blah blah, ad nauseum.........
Anyway, Asbestos.
The duct behind the cab is made of woven asbestos textile, I tested mine myself at the lab I work at and for those of you who are interested it consists of 100% Chrysotile asbestos. Therefore, if you have not got to remove it don't. The best way to deal with this is to soak it with a mixture of 1 part water to around 5-8 parts PVA water soluable glue, by using a simple house hold plant sprayer with the atomiser head on it. Once this has been applied it will bind any loose fibres and stop them becoming airbourne which is our main goal here.
Once this dries out, paint it with whatever colour you are going to paint your truck (the best way is to spray it not disturb it with a paint brush). You have then effectively encapsulated it and it shouldn't cause you any further problems. I have had a look inside the duct on my Gaz and I believe that it is completely sealed from the asbestos wrap, i.e. the metal duct is complete with no holes in it to allow the ingress of fibres when the heater unit is in use or when motoring along.
If you are still worried you could also seal the bulkhead duct opening like ditch has done, but I for one will probably leave mine.
If you are STILL concerned and decide to have it removed the whole duct should be removed by unbolting it once it has been wrapped up in an airtight polythene envelope of suitable thickness material (1000 gauge polythene only), and it has to be disposed of properly by contacting your local authority. If you decide to go this route I would stongly suggest that you employ a licenced contractor to carry out the work for you, but there will be a cost implication which may run into the high hundreds of pounds bracket.

Hope this helps, and if you decide that you want to get it removed drop me a line and I should be able to point you in the direction of a specialist company nearer to where you may live.


Backhouse

[portamurda1]

further to backhouses advice...approved asbestos contractors can be found on HSE's website....however, as the majority here will be 'domestic' it is fine for you to remove and dispose of...just take it to your local authority refuse...and, if removing, as a further precaution use the water pva method anyway.... :mrgreen:

[zoltan]

Thanks for that Backhouse. I will paint mine for now and see if it continues to bug me and at least it is safe for the while.

Do you know if the two seals either end of the heater unit are asbestos? They look like they are the same type of fibrous material

[LOGGERS]

What is the wall insulation material in these russian trucks?

[Ditch]

AFAIK wall insulation is phenolic foam (builders foam).

The only other (suspected) asbestos I have come across on the truck so far is in the original brake and clutch linings and some gaskets on the exhaust.

[LOGGERS]

That surprised me as thought mineral/glass wool due to age of vehicles. Does the side diesel heater in some models have concerns with heat coverings materials.

[haymish]

it is foam in the gaz66 cos the daddy backed mine into something when it was being picked up and tore the alloy slightly and foam definitely showing.

[backhouse1]

Thanks for that Backhouse. I will paint mine for now and see if it continues to bug me and at least it is safe for the while.

Do you know if the two seals either end of the heater unit are asbestos? They look like they are the same type of fibrous material

On my truck they are a kind of rubber seal, from how you describe them yours could well be asbestos textile. If in doubt seal em up.

Backhouse

[LOGGERS]

Does that mean the heater units have the possible chance to blow Asbestos into the cabin area?

[backhouse1]

I suppose that there is a risk, like zoltan has said about his gaskets, but mine are some type of rubber and the duct itself metal and in good condition so i'd be happy to run mine. At the end of the day, I'd say if you're worried get it checked out and don't use your heater unit until you are happy.

[gdelooze]

Old thread I know but im new. Ill guarantee that your domestic fresh water is supplied with asbestos pipes.Unless you have a farm with a well then you only have to worry about the cow s**t and Uranium.
maybee someone can explain how that is safe?

[zoltan]

Is it not the case that asbestos is lethal to your lungs but possibly non harmful through your digestive system? Either way it is another huge skeleton in the wardrobe and no doubt a costly one at that

[gdelooze]

That would be convenient untill you wash your clothes in it then dry them and then breath it in. Banned in the states for a long time now but here keep drinking the 10000000 fibres per litre. No one gives a t**s