Chernobyl

MrRussian · Post by **MrRussian** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:58 pm

I know this subject has been covered before, but somehow with what is going on in Japan I am morbidly drawn to the Japan and Chernobyl disaster. I remember it like yesterday and the film I found below now looks very old, but knowing the guys who made the film didnt live long, it is probably the most factural there was taken.

The Zils carrying the clear up workers is quite chilling.

Any one travelled there? I went close a couple of years ago, but my driver wasn't happy to drive very close.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbCcutzXzYg

Post by **KarlJ** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:35 pm

I've not seen that whole video before, thank you for posting it. It's incredible how dated it looks, and how easy the Soviet state sent it's people to certain death in there. Let's hope the Japanese can sort theirs out...

Ditch · Post by **Ditch** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:47 pm

Have a look at all the bonnets left open in this video. I'm sure they weren't left like that. They have had spares removed.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grGdVqVi ... re=related[/youtube]

Charlesm · Post by **Charlesm** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:49 pm

MrRussian wrote:Any one travelled there? I went close a couple of years ago, but my driver wasn't happy to drive very close.

I have always wanted to go and have a look round - drive all the way there and back.

Abrs · Post by **Abrs** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:14 pm

Think it would be difficult to get really close, they still have an exclusion zone around the area, about 20 miles IIRC.

haymish · Post by **haymish** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:43 pm

dream on

-they do guided tours and day trips to see it right up close and personal

been encouraged by un to bring money into the surrounding area's.technically you can get in without a guide if have the right paperwork but guides are advized as carry geigercounters and know the hot spots-can even get your lunch by the plant[food brought in daily

]half a dozen or so tourists get cooked each year doing their own thing!its not officially legal as tourism so if you go you will be called a 'delegate' and they still get touchy about photo's in some area's.

Abrs · Post by **Abrs** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:49 pm

Aye, I've heard that they tried doing tours in Pripyat a while ago but no longer do, but honestly there is an exclusion zone still in place around the plant, they have checkpoints with armed guards to prevent any unauthorised access into the area, do a google, I'm there must be plenty of info about it.

haymish · Post by **haymish** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:54 pm

forgot to add-the trucks were robbed by officialdom[corrupt army and civvy officialdom] not joe bloggs making a shilling.most are engineless and the engines turn up all over the place.most neighbouring countries have geiger counter checks on the borders and trucks frequently stopped and confiscated for glowing in the dark-either having 'hot' parts on them or carrying 'hot' parts.the guided tours stop there but you are not allowed in the fields technically-definitely not advizeable to walk between the trucks cos getting a double whammy dose that way!

haymish · Post by **haymish** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:56 pm

the ezxclusion zone technically still exists-but you can get in anyway no bother-either with right paperwork or on a tour.

RangerNeil · Post by **RangerNeil** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:05 pm

That is an awfully sobering bit of film.... Especially where the Mil disintegrates in mid-air...
How many more decades - or centuries - will it be before the area becomes safe again???

Ditch · Post by **Ditch** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:42 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qa0Oz-gRWQ[/youtube]

Post by **KarlJ** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:50 pm

IIRC the 'hotest' vehicles like the fire engines shown in the vid were buried in a big pit. The vehicles and helicopters parked in the field that is shown quite a bit aren't as dangerous, you'd only be cooked in hours rather than minutes.

Charlesm · Post by **Charlesm** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:52 pm

I'm now looking for an alternative holiday destination.

haymish · Post by **haymish** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:14 am

just to help you in your choice of holiday-the background rad in the surrounding forest area is actually going up-not down -as the trees/plants absorb radioactive caesium from the soil!its now showing higher rad in the ground water in lots of countries in the flight path of the radioactive cloud.you are banned from eating fish etc in several german lakes.the basic trouble being that of the many tons of the core material,only 10% is actually left in the foot beneath the container-all the rest vapourized in the heat and is still out there.the radioactive caesium will be around for 500 years plus.it has a half life of 30 years so might be safe in about another 20 half lives in the majority of places.maybe a thousand years in the worst hit areas.
just as an added extra .the foot in the reactor-made of fused sand and radioactive materuial is decaying and the radiation levels in that rising too.technically as the block falls apart there is still enough material for it to go critical again and start blasting out the nasties-and nobody quite sure what to do about it except encase it in even more concrete.

Charlesm · Post by **Charlesm** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:59 am

Yes - a seriously nasty place all round. Thank you for the briefing.

Post by **KarlJ** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:50 am

A friend of mine worked at Sellafield and they thought they had a major leak when Chernobyl blew as all of their radiation alarms went off as the cloud passed over.

Trapper Ind · Post by **Trapper Ind** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:36 pm

we have been to belarus hunting and have shot wild boar and have had to test them and bury any over 500 rads, these boar are migrating from Ukraine..

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