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congrats Is it on the road? Do you have any special plans for it?
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yes its in great condition
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Do tell....
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they are superb trucks, everytime I hear of someone else getting one i get jealous. Need to go out in one of mine and have a go...dont get the chance at the moment.
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I know the guy who transported it !!!!acmatman wrote:I am now the proud owner of a ZIL 131 de contam ?
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Great to see Rob back maybe Ditch is next ?
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small world
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Bout time I updated my list.....
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ural 375 d Box running so sweet she is a treat....
Ural 375D flat bed on she is complete...winch too, engine running like a dog still...definitely have a plug issue as well as a carb issue...... zas well as a fuel pump issue...
ural 375d getting diesel engine...getting a ford 7.2 litre power stroke..
Star 660 x 2 now all working, just got to fit flat bed to one...second one now has a compression problem...head coming off.
Zil 131 ... Wrecker with front winch, still needs a rear winch and a bit of bodywork. Welder here this month to sort it all out.
Zil 131 flat bed getting a front winch fitted..but may go diesel..
Zil 131 crane 4 ton rear winch and tipper body, awaiting fitting and final commissioning.
Zil 131 logging zil, front winch, with rear mounted botex crane and grab plus donkey engine and hydrauluc pump...all to be fitted this month..
Diesel Zil 131...new engine fitted, running a treat...
Zil 131 Decon getting Diesel GM 6.2 as a trial install with auto box...
Zil with rear Crane, driven from Sheffield lovely.
Zil 131 chassis cab camo just needs a bit of tidying. Now with new back body, new drivers step and a new wing.
Gaz 69, awaiting MOT work starting this week, brakes mostly...still have the wrong wheel cylinders
FV432
FV434 (new) needs oils changing...sorted...
Stalwart x 2 crane 623 and standard 622. 622 awaiting a few mods before she is ready to roll...
Saracen second gear problem...partially sorted but the second gear band is near the end of life....thats an engine out and gearbox out...big job...
M62 wrecker 20 ton..with 10 ton crane, 10 ton front winch and 25 ton rear winch, but reckon they can pull double that..all working now and road legal.
MTLB running sweet now, new belts fitted, steering brakes all adjusted and working a treat...just need a bit of fabrication work now.
looking at fitting the spare engine into the ural..git a new geny and on off switch, lights next...
Berliet tipper KT 8 multi fuel diesel..now tipping as it should, excellent vehicle
UAZ 452.newly mot'd about to be registered...
Star 266 sweet
14.3 ton tipper trailer.....awaiting MOT
4.5 ton Mesa trailer that will carry 2.25 tons...to have all its hydraulics removed to lighten the basic trailer and then she should carry around 2.8 tons.
Sanky narrow track...okay but going to get a wide track with disc brakes too...
Sanky 1 and 3/4 ton
M817 cummins 250 diesel tipper...will be perfect 1959 manufacured. so no tax or MOT perfect.
Green Goddess
Unimog getting a cab re weld...lots to repair..
Scammell 8x6 DROPS
Foden 8 x 4 beaver tail..loads of work needed to tidy her up..on going....new gearbox and winch going on in the next week or so..
ZIL 131 from Germany, now in the UK, and now fitted as a camper...
FH77 155mm Gun now mostly operational except for the brakes and main support legs which only work manually at the moment..
Munga jeep in process of rebuild...looking good.
UAZ 469
Renault tipper crane now going beaver tail..beaver tail bought...
Zil 157 needing new engine and a fair bit of work to get on the road again...getting a cummins straight 6 diesel and eaton overdrive box. Box is mostly cleared out but needs the mast/aerial mount removing then we will see if the box is worth keeping.
ZIL 131 decontam unit from Rob...she will be going on the road as a std machine.
Last one Tatra 813 Kolos...partially paid for awaiting collection..
FUG B collection today or tomorrow...
TATRA 813 flat bed..
munga x 3 two are ex lord carrington of UN fame...
Kirovets
Ferrett
and can you believe this another zil131 think i have missed a few need todo inventory
.
ural 375 d Box running so sweet she is a treat....
Ural 375D flat bed on she is complete...winch too, engine running like a dog still...definitely have a plug issue as well as a carb issue...... zas well as a fuel pump issue...
ural 375d getting diesel engine...getting a ford 7.2 litre power stroke..
Star 660 x 2 now all working, just got to fit flat bed to one...second one now has a compression problem...head coming off.
Zil 131 ... Wrecker with front winch, still needs a rear winch and a bit of bodywork. Welder here this month to sort it all out.
Zil 131 flat bed getting a front winch fitted..but may go diesel..
Zil 131 crane 4 ton rear winch and tipper body, awaiting fitting and final commissioning.
Zil 131 logging zil, front winch, with rear mounted botex crane and grab plus donkey engine and hydrauluc pump...all to be fitted this month..
Diesel Zil 131...new engine fitted, running a treat...
Zil 131 Decon getting Diesel GM 6.2 as a trial install with auto box...
Zil with rear Crane, driven from Sheffield lovely.
Zil 131 chassis cab camo just needs a bit of tidying. Now with new back body, new drivers step and a new wing.
Gaz 69, awaiting MOT work starting this week, brakes mostly...still have the wrong wheel cylinders
FV432
FV434 (new) needs oils changing...sorted...
Stalwart x 2 crane 623 and standard 622. 622 awaiting a few mods before she is ready to roll...
Saracen second gear problem...partially sorted but the second gear band is near the end of life....thats an engine out and gearbox out...big job...
M62 wrecker 20 ton..with 10 ton crane, 10 ton front winch and 25 ton rear winch, but reckon they can pull double that..all working now and road legal.
MTLB running sweet now, new belts fitted, steering brakes all adjusted and working a treat...just need a bit of fabrication work now.
looking at fitting the spare engine into the ural..git a new geny and on off switch, lights next...
Berliet tipper KT 8 multi fuel diesel..now tipping as it should, excellent vehicle
UAZ 452.newly mot'd about to be registered...
Star 266 sweet
14.3 ton tipper trailer.....awaiting MOT
4.5 ton Mesa trailer that will carry 2.25 tons...to have all its hydraulics removed to lighten the basic trailer and then she should carry around 2.8 tons.
Sanky narrow track...okay but going to get a wide track with disc brakes too...
Sanky 1 and 3/4 ton
M817 cummins 250 diesel tipper...will be perfect 1959 manufacured. so no tax or MOT perfect.
Green Goddess
Unimog getting a cab re weld...lots to repair..
Scammell 8x6 DROPS
Foden 8 x 4 beaver tail..loads of work needed to tidy her up..on going....new gearbox and winch going on in the next week or so..
ZIL 131 from Germany, now in the UK, and now fitted as a camper...
FH77 155mm Gun now mostly operational except for the brakes and main support legs which only work manually at the moment..
Munga jeep in process of rebuild...looking good.
UAZ 469
Renault tipper crane now going beaver tail..beaver tail bought...
Zil 157 needing new engine and a fair bit of work to get on the road again...getting a cummins straight 6 diesel and eaton overdrive box. Box is mostly cleared out but needs the mast/aerial mount removing then we will see if the box is worth keeping.
ZIL 131 decontam unit from Rob...she will be going on the road as a std machine.
Last one Tatra 813 Kolos...partially paid for awaiting collection..
FUG B collection today or tomorrow...
TATRA 813 flat bed..
munga x 3 two are ex lord carrington of UN fame...
Kirovets
Ferrett
and can you believe this another zil131 think i have missed a few need todo inventory
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Not much to add just the BRDM as soon as I can get the bloody thing cleared through the countries, Jarek wants me to get a licence but I cannot and he wants to sell me the guns but I cannot get them here without that licence and I cannot get a licence until I have my museum-proper up and running...
oh joy...
Bout time I updated my list.....
.
ural 375 d Box running so sweet she is a treat....
Ural 375D flat bed on she is complete...winch too, engine running like a dog still...definitely have a plug issue as well as a carb issue...... zas well as a fuel pump issue...
ural 375d getting diesel engine...getting a ford 7.2 litre power stroke..
Star 660 x 2 now all working, just got to fit flat bed to one...second one now has a compression problem...head coming off.
Zil 131 ... Wrecker with front winch, still needs a rear winch and a bit of bodywork. Welder here this month to sort it all out.
Zil 131 flat bed getting a front winch fitted..but may go diesel..
Zil 131 crane 4 ton rear winch and tipper body, awaiting fitting and final commissioning.
Zil 131 logging zil, front winch, with rear mounted botex crane and grab plus donkey engine and hydrauluc pump...all to be fitted this month..
Diesel Zil 131...new engine fitted, running a treat...
Zil 131 Decon getting Diesel GM 6.2 as a trial install with auto box...
Zil with rear Crane, driven from Sheffield lovely.
Zil 131 chassis cab camo just needs a bit of tidying. Now with new back body, new drivers step and a new wing.
Gaz 69, awaiting MOT work starting this week, brakes mostly...still have the wrong wheel cylinders
FV432
FV434 (new) needs oils changing...sorted...
Stalwart x 2 crane 623 and standard 622. 622 awaiting a few mods before she is ready to roll...
Saracen second gear problem...partially sorted but the second gear band is near the end of life....thats an engine out and gearbox out...big job...
M62 wrecker 20 ton..with 10 ton crane, 10 ton front winch and 25 ton rear winch, but reckon they can pull double that..all working now and road legal.
MTLB running sweet now, new belts fitted, steering brakes all adjusted and working a treat...just need a bit of fabrication work now.
looking at fitting the spare engine into the ural..git a new geny and on off switch, lights next...
Berliet tipper KT 8 multi fuel diesel..now tipping as it should, excellent vehicle
UAZ 452.newly mot'd about to be registered...
Star 266 sweet
14.3 ton tipper trailer.....awaiting MOT
4.5 ton Mesa trailer that will carry 2.25 tons...to have all its hydraulics removed to lighten the basic trailer and then she should carry around 2.8 tons.
Sanky narrow track...okay but going to get a wide track with disc brakes too...
Sanky 1 and 3/4 ton
M817 cummins 250 diesel tipper...will be perfect 1959 manufacured. so no tax or MOT perfect.
Green Goddess
Unimog getting a cab re weld...lots to repair..
Scammell 8x6 DROPS
Foden 8 x 4 beaver tail..loads of work needed to tidy her up..on going....new gearbox and winch going on in the next week or so..
ZIL 131 from Germany, now in the UK, and now fitted as a camper...
FH77 155mm Gun now mostly operational except for the brakes and main support legs which only work manually at the moment..
Munga jeep in process of rebuild...looking good.
UAZ 469
Renault tipper crane now going beaver tail..beaver tail bought...
Zil 157 needing new engine and a fair bit of work to get on the road again...getting a cummins straight 6 diesel and eaton overdrive box. Box is mostly cleared out but needs the mast/aerial mount removing then we will see if the box is worth keeping.
ZIL 131 decontam unit from Rob...she will be going on the road as a std machine.
Last one Tatra 813 Kolos...partially paid for awaiting collection..
FUG B collection today or tomorrow...
TATRA 813 flat bed..
munga x 3 two are ex lord carrington of UN fame...
Kirovets
Ferrett
and can you believe this another zil131 think i have missed a few need todo inventory
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oh joy...
Bout time I updated my list.....
.
ural 375 d Box running so sweet she is a treat....
Ural 375D flat bed on she is complete...winch too, engine running like a dog still...definitely have a plug issue as well as a carb issue...... zas well as a fuel pump issue...
ural 375d getting diesel engine...getting a ford 7.2 litre power stroke..
Star 660 x 2 now all working, just got to fit flat bed to one...second one now has a compression problem...head coming off.
Zil 131 ... Wrecker with front winch, still needs a rear winch and a bit of bodywork. Welder here this month to sort it all out.
Zil 131 flat bed getting a front winch fitted..but may go diesel..
Zil 131 crane 4 ton rear winch and tipper body, awaiting fitting and final commissioning.
Zil 131 logging zil, front winch, with rear mounted botex crane and grab plus donkey engine and hydrauluc pump...all to be fitted this month..
Diesel Zil 131...new engine fitted, running a treat...
Zil 131 Decon getting Diesel GM 6.2 as a trial install with auto box...
Zil with rear Crane, driven from Sheffield lovely.
Zil 131 chassis cab camo just needs a bit of tidying. Now with new back body, new drivers step and a new wing.
Gaz 69, awaiting MOT work starting this week, brakes mostly...still have the wrong wheel cylinders
FV432
FV434 (new) needs oils changing...sorted...
Stalwart x 2 crane 623 and standard 622. 622 awaiting a few mods before she is ready to roll...
Saracen second gear problem...partially sorted but the second gear band is near the end of life....thats an engine out and gearbox out...big job...
M62 wrecker 20 ton..with 10 ton crane, 10 ton front winch and 25 ton rear winch, but reckon they can pull double that..all working now and road legal.
MTLB running sweet now, new belts fitted, steering brakes all adjusted and working a treat...just need a bit of fabrication work now.
looking at fitting the spare engine into the ural..git a new geny and on off switch, lights next...
Berliet tipper KT 8 multi fuel diesel..now tipping as it should, excellent vehicle
UAZ 452.newly mot'd about to be registered...
Star 266 sweet
14.3 ton tipper trailer.....awaiting MOT
4.5 ton Mesa trailer that will carry 2.25 tons...to have all its hydraulics removed to lighten the basic trailer and then she should carry around 2.8 tons.
Sanky narrow track...okay but going to get a wide track with disc brakes too...
Sanky 1 and 3/4 ton
M817 cummins 250 diesel tipper...will be perfect 1959 manufacured. so no tax or MOT perfect.
Green Goddess
Unimog getting a cab re weld...lots to repair..
Scammell 8x6 DROPS
Foden 8 x 4 beaver tail..loads of work needed to tidy her up..on going....new gearbox and winch going on in the next week or so..
ZIL 131 from Germany, now in the UK, and now fitted as a camper...
FH77 155mm Gun now mostly operational except for the brakes and main support legs which only work manually at the moment..
Munga jeep in process of rebuild...looking good.
UAZ 469
Renault tipper crane now going beaver tail..beaver tail bought...
Zil 157 needing new engine and a fair bit of work to get on the road again...getting a cummins straight 6 diesel and eaton overdrive box. Box is mostly cleared out but needs the mast/aerial mount removing then we will see if the box is worth keeping.
ZIL 131 decontam unit from Rob...she will be going on the road as a std machine.
Last one Tatra 813 Kolos...partially paid for awaiting collection..
FUG B collection today or tomorrow...
TATRA 813 flat bed..
munga x 3 two are ex lord carrington of UN fame...
Kirovets
Ferrett
and can you believe this another zil131 think i have missed a few need todo inventory
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again?? really??
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Spot the difference competition??
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as I said at the top of the list just the BRDM to add....but actually I had forgotten my Brush electric bomb tug and the Leviathan, royal navy heavy tug...amazing little vehicle, only a 1300 ford engine and yet with its ultra low gearing will pull tens of tons of heavy vehicle...so I am told anyway...
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funkypete wrote:Spot the difference competition??
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here is the proper updated list, bough a striker this week.
ural 375 d Box running so sweet she is a treat....
Ural 375D flat bed on she is complete...winch too, engine running like a dog still...definitely have a plug issue as well as a carb issue...... zas well as a fuel pump issue...
ural 375d getting diesel engine...getting a ford 7.2 litre power stroke..
Star 660 x 2 now all working, just got to fit flat bed to one...second one now has a compression problem...head coming off.
Zil 131 ... Wrecker with front winch, still needs a rear winch and a bit of bodywork. Welder here this month to sort it all out.
Zil 131 flat bed getting a front winch fitted..but may go diesel..
Zil 131 crane 4 ton rear winch and tipper body, awaiting fitting and final commissioning.
Zil 131 logging zil, front winch, with rear mounted botex crane and grab plus donkey engine and hydrauluc pump...all to be fitted this month..
Diesel Zil 131...new engine fitted, running a treat...
Zil 131 Decon getting Diesel GM 6.2 as a trial install with auto box...
Zil with rear Crane, driven from Sheffield lovely.
Zil 131 chassis cab camo just needs a bit of tidying. Now with new back body, new drivers step and a new wing.
Gaz 69, awaiting MOT work starting this week, brakes mostly...still have the wrong wheel cylinders
FV432
FV434 (new) needs oils changing...sorted...
Stalwart x 2 crane 623 and standard 622. 622 awaiting a few mods before she is ready to roll...
Saracen second gear problem...partially sorted but the second gear band is near the end of life....thats an engine out and gearbox out...big job...
M62 wrecker 20 ton..with 10 ton crane, 10 ton front winch and 25 ton rear winch, but reckon they can pull double that..all working now and road legal.
MTLB running sweet now, new belts fitted, steering brakes all adjusted and working a treat...just need a bit of fabrication work now.
looking at fitting the spare engine into the ural..git a new geny and on off switch, lights next...
Berliet tipper KT 8 multi fuel diesel..now tipping as it should, excellent vehicle
UAZ 452.newly mot'd about to be registered...
Star 266 sweet
14.3 ton tipper trailer.....awaiting MOT
4.5 ton Mesa trailer that will carry 2.25 tons...to have all its hydraulics removed to lighten the basic trailer and then she should carry around 2.8 tons.
Sanky narrow track...okay but going to get a wide track with disc brakes too...
Sanky 1 and 3/4 ton
M817 cummins 250 diesel tipper...will be perfect 1959 manufacured. so no tax or MOT perfect.
Green Goddess
Unimog getting a cab re weld...lots to repair..
Scammell 8x6 DROPS
Foden 8 x 4 beaver tail..loads of work needed to tidy her up..on going....new gearbox and winch going on in the next week or so..
ZIL 131 from Germany, now in the UK, and now fitted as a camper...
FH77 155mm Gun now mostly operational except for the brakes and main support legs which only work manually at the moment..
Munga jeep in process of rebuild...looking good.
UAZ 469
Renault tipper crane now going beaver tail..beaver tail bought...
Zil 157 needing new engine and a fair bit of work to get on the road again...getting a cummins straight 6 diesel and eaton overdrive box. Box is mostly cleared out but needs the mast/aerial mount removing then we will see if the box is worth keeping.
ZIL 131 decontam unit from Rob...she will be going on the road as a std machine.
Last one Tatra 813 Kolos...partially paid for awaiting collection..
FUG B collection today or tomorrow...
TATRA 813 flat bed..
munga x 3 two are ex lord carrington of UN fame...
Kirovets
Ferrett
zil 131 Radio truck
Leviathan
Brush Electric Bomb tug
Stirker Swingfire CVRT..bit of a wreck but will be fun to getting her running
ural 375 d Box running so sweet she is a treat....
Ural 375D flat bed on she is complete...winch too, engine running like a dog still...definitely have a plug issue as well as a carb issue...... zas well as a fuel pump issue...
ural 375d getting diesel engine...getting a ford 7.2 litre power stroke..
Star 660 x 2 now all working, just got to fit flat bed to one...second one now has a compression problem...head coming off.
Zil 131 ... Wrecker with front winch, still needs a rear winch and a bit of bodywork. Welder here this month to sort it all out.
Zil 131 flat bed getting a front winch fitted..but may go diesel..
Zil 131 crane 4 ton rear winch and tipper body, awaiting fitting and final commissioning.
Zil 131 logging zil, front winch, with rear mounted botex crane and grab plus donkey engine and hydrauluc pump...all to be fitted this month..
Diesel Zil 131...new engine fitted, running a treat...
Zil 131 Decon getting Diesel GM 6.2 as a trial install with auto box...
Zil with rear Crane, driven from Sheffield lovely.
Zil 131 chassis cab camo just needs a bit of tidying. Now with new back body, new drivers step and a new wing.
Gaz 69, awaiting MOT work starting this week, brakes mostly...still have the wrong wheel cylinders
FV432
FV434 (new) needs oils changing...sorted...
Stalwart x 2 crane 623 and standard 622. 622 awaiting a few mods before she is ready to roll...
Saracen second gear problem...partially sorted but the second gear band is near the end of life....thats an engine out and gearbox out...big job...
M62 wrecker 20 ton..with 10 ton crane, 10 ton front winch and 25 ton rear winch, but reckon they can pull double that..all working now and road legal.
MTLB running sweet now, new belts fitted, steering brakes all adjusted and working a treat...just need a bit of fabrication work now.
looking at fitting the spare engine into the ural..git a new geny and on off switch, lights next...
Berliet tipper KT 8 multi fuel diesel..now tipping as it should, excellent vehicle
UAZ 452.newly mot'd about to be registered...
Star 266 sweet
14.3 ton tipper trailer.....awaiting MOT
4.5 ton Mesa trailer that will carry 2.25 tons...to have all its hydraulics removed to lighten the basic trailer and then she should carry around 2.8 tons.
Sanky narrow track...okay but going to get a wide track with disc brakes too...
Sanky 1 and 3/4 ton
M817 cummins 250 diesel tipper...will be perfect 1959 manufacured. so no tax or MOT perfect.
Green Goddess
Unimog getting a cab re weld...lots to repair..
Scammell 8x6 DROPS
Foden 8 x 4 beaver tail..loads of work needed to tidy her up..on going....new gearbox and winch going on in the next week or so..
ZIL 131 from Germany, now in the UK, and now fitted as a camper...
FH77 155mm Gun now mostly operational except for the brakes and main support legs which only work manually at the moment..
Munga jeep in process of rebuild...looking good.
UAZ 469
Renault tipper crane now going beaver tail..beaver tail bought...
Zil 157 needing new engine and a fair bit of work to get on the road again...getting a cummins straight 6 diesel and eaton overdrive box. Box is mostly cleared out but needs the mast/aerial mount removing then we will see if the box is worth keeping.
ZIL 131 decontam unit from Rob...she will be going on the road as a std machine.
Last one Tatra 813 Kolos...partially paid for awaiting collection..
FUG B collection today or tomorrow...
TATRA 813 flat bed..
munga x 3 two are ex lord carrington of UN fame...
Kirovets
Ferrett
zil 131 Radio truck
Leviathan
Brush Electric Bomb tug
Stirker Swingfire CVRT..bit of a wreck but will be fun to getting her running
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Damn Paul! When are you gonna get some pictures on? Has your mechanic resigned yet?
“There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.”
Mark Twain
Mark Twain
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Just one? I think if he has only 1 mechanic, by the time he finished checking oil on all vehicles, it's time to start over again. Let alone fix anythingAbrs wrote:Has your mechanic resigned yet?
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Well i have two mechanics trained, my son helps and I have a member of staff who when not doing other stuff helps out...but your right the collection is getting to the point where i will need a body work specialist and engine specialist and other helpers...need the final site yet...am looking for somewhere in earnest. I have 500-600,000 to spend on the right site, biut it is not going to be easy to find round here...I look everyday but they are like hens teeth...
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facebook, the coldwar collection, without the spaces...lots of piccies, and you tube
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Cheers, I'll have a nose later on
“There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.”
Mark Twain
Mark Twain
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Speaking if the cold war, looks like Withams is selling a MK10 Chieftain Main Battle Tank, direct from cold war reserve stock, in there latest tender.
I wonder how much one of those would go for!?!
I wonder how much one of those would go for!?!
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